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Craig F
22nd June 2005, 08:01 AM
Howdy,

I've heard a lot about the benefits that replacing the internal crossover on Magneplaner speakers can bring. Magnapan are obviously against this as you're messing with the voicing of the speaker, something that they've worked long and hard to get exactly as they want. Well I'm no tech so apart from thinking about it, I hadn't done anything concrete in that area. A couple of weeks back there was a post on the Planar section of Audio Asylum about these capacitors:

http://www.diyhifisupply.com/diyhs_ob_caps.htm

At US$15 each for the 22uF units, I thought I'd get a couple and give them a go as they're cheap, I can happily solder a couple of wires and if I didn't like the results I could simply put the original caps back in. The worst thing about them is that they're too big to fit in the space vacated by the old caps, so I now have a bulge in the back of the speaker.

After changing one speaker over I put good old Ella and Louis (mono) on the cd player and hit track 3. Being mono I could just switch the balance to compare the speakers and as they say, mono is the best way to hear colourations etc. Well quite simply the modified speaker was more transparent, added much more body to the sound, was tonally and harmonically richer, more detailed, and simply more musically convincing. The second speaker was immediately done and I spent last night getting a handle on what had changed.

Simply put, most everything has improved and for most of the night either my jaw was agape or I was just laughing out loud. Possibly what struck me most was the sheer phyiscality now evident with the individual images much more solid. This and an large increase in the rhythmic surity keep jumping out at me, which I'm putting down to extra clarity and the better dynamic shadings. The overall sound is much richer without any dulling of the tops or muddying of the midrange. Dynamics, both macro and micro have stepped up a notch or two, as has detail which really shows itself in the decay of notes which seem to go on forever. The soundstage has possibly deepened and widened a touch, but the main improvement in that area is greater air around each instrument which gives more of a 3D image. All these bits put together help to create a more musically believable illusion and have improved both the sound and more importantly the musicality of my system. The sound is more relaxing yet it's also more exciting if that makes any sense.

I don't know if the caps will continue to improve for a day or two and I also don't know if over time I'm come to spot glaring weaknesses but for now, AWESOME.

Cheers,

Craig.

P.S. My wife, ever the pragmatist, was essentially offended that such a cheap tweak could "improve" a NZ$4.5k (AU$5.5k) speaker so much. She thought they should get it right in the first place for that price.

Craig F
22nd June 2005, 08:05 AM
I should also add that this is the only tweak I've done in the speaker. I haven't changed the binding posts which apparently makes quite a difference, the internal wiring is still tinned copper (!!) and the inductor is standard.

Cheers,

Craig.

Callum
22nd June 2005, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by Craig F
My wife, ever the pragmatist, was essentially offended that such a cheap tweak could "improve" a NZ$4.5k (AU$5.5k) speaker so much. She thought they should get it right in the first place for that price.

Good stuff Craig. You must be fizzing that such an inexpensive tweak could improve your listening pleasure so. With regards to the above (and being something of a pragmatist myself) I quite agree with your wife. Perhaps if enough people who have appreciated this tweak wrote to Magnaplanar and shared their experience with them, then they might just do something about it. Or maybe leaving a little room for DIY improvements is a cunning trick to generate a bit of extra publicity through online discussion.

Callum

Craig F
22nd June 2005, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Callum
Good stuff Craig. You must be fizzing that such an inexpensive tweak could improve your listening pleasure so.

Absolutely amazed and over the moon with the changes.


Originally posted by Callum
Perhaps if enough people who have appreciated this tweak wrote to Magnaplanar and shared their experience with them, then they might just do something about it. Or maybe leaving a little room for DIY improvements is a cunning trick to generate a bit of extra publicity through online discussion.

From what I can gather Magnepan are well aware of what's happening but they don't necessarily accept that the speaker is better with the modifications that are being carried out. (Get the cotton wool out of your ears guys!) When you look at what a lot of people do in the way of mods, and realise that every dollar spent on manufacturing adds about $5 to the retail price, that could play a big part as well. Generally for a full upgrade you're looking at new binding posts, upgrading the internal wiring, substituting in air core inductors, and new caps. This could well add US$1000 to the retail price, which puts the 1.6 in a totally different market to where Magnepan wants it to be. Still, if just the capacitors brings this much difference then they should be doing this at least.

Cheers,

Craig.

mondie
22nd June 2005, 10:55 PM
Its amazing what a few well informed tweaks can acheive. You have got to love the internet spreading the knowledge (and mis-information) for all and sundry.

l wonder if your Maggies now compete against their more expensive brothers?

Good stuff Craig :D

Ayn Marx
23rd June 2005, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Craig F
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My wife, ever the pragmatist, was essentially offended that such a cheap tweak could "improve" a NZ$4.5k (AU$5.5k) speaker so much. She thought they should get it right in the first place for that price.

I agree with the wife. There's one variable here that's not been mentioned though. Yes, I accept that upgrading caps in many components does bring about night and day differences even in cheap gear such as the now deleted Pioneer 676a DVD player. However, apples need to be compared to apples. It's just possible that your old caps had aged (read degraded) and that some of the difference experienced was due to this. Notice I said SOME.

Craig F
23rd June 2005, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Ayn Marx
It's just possible that your old caps had aged (read degraded) and that some of the difference experienced was due to this.

I said the same thing to a mate this morning. The speakers are six or seven years old and yes, the caps could have deteriated somewhat.

Having had another good listen last night I continue to be very pleased with the results.

Cheers,

Craig.