Info needed - Denon broadcast idler drive turntable Model RP - 53C

[beeman]

I have come across a couple of very interesting looking Denon professional idler drive turntables. Huge cast beasts - beautiful engineering. Denon markings on the huge motor & bits. Date stamped 1962. Cant find a thing on the web.

Model RP - 53C

Any links or info would be much appreciated

[paul300b]

Awesome! Pics please!

[enzedone]

Cool, just drop one off to my place thanks......

[paul300b]

Did they come with Denon tonearms? Should match the dl103 quite well. (very well, as they were prob. designed for it).

[beeman]

No no tonearms unfortunatly

[Owen Young]

Denon did idler drives before going to DD I read somewhere.

[beeman]

Sorry about the poor quality iPhone pics 755975607561756275637564

[paul300b]

F@cken awesome! Hit the jackpot there! Looks like their copy of a EMT 927 or 930. Maybe post on Vinylengine forums too for extra info. A nice addition to the Hula Hut. Time to get some ply and do a bit of woodworking on plinths over the hols then? And tonearm hunting.

[DodgyConnection]

where on earth did you turn those up? They look like they are built like clay-block outhouses :D

[omegaspeedy]

Stunning!! Hows that for Japanese build quality! I need to wipe the dribble off my chin now:)

[beeman]

Ok - here is a proposition for those of you both smarter & handy'er than me. I have 2 x of these amazing turntables. If you could produce a decent plinth & power supply for me & get it up & running I would trade one of them. They both look to be in mint condition mech wise with as has been said before stunning build quality.

This is a chance to own something unique at hopefully little outlay beyond your DIY skills. PM me if your interested - cheers :D

[beeman]

could be just the thing to team with an Apparition 12" - vintage niceness :cool::p:cool:

[omegaspeedy]

Hi beeman, as mentioned today I'd be keen to work with you on these:) Hopefully if I can find some time, I'll go over the electronics on the back and figure out if it's AC or DC and what all the caps etc are. I think your right that it could be some sort of soft start or other function. Hopefully she's an AC driven unit as this could keep it more simple to get up and running.

Cheers James.

[paul300b]

Good luck, and I hope it is a good outcome for you both of you. I'm sure it will be....
:)

[beeman]

Cheers paul - amazing I have not been able to find any info at all online

[hal55]

I share your problem on building a plinth. Had the school where i work do cutouts in five 19mm ply boards (which unfortunately wrecked the thin Fijian cedar veneer on nearly all of them) and I'm going to bond them together this morning. Cutout for a tonearm was done at the same time. Ply is a rotten thing to work with if you don't have industrial strengh tools.
Mine is an SP10, Decca London International arm (very vintage) and cartridge to be decided on yet.
Good luck getting yours up and running, but I appreciate that without the tools and skill set it's a challenge.

Hal55

[beeman]

Moving on with these beautiful pieces. Both are running. They have motor oiler tubes & one seems to be low on oil gets noisy after a bit. Any ideas as to what the correct oil would be - suggestions appreciated. Also how often they should be oiled

Edit pic added

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[omegaspeedy]

beeman, a fine bearing oil is what you need. I found a great product at the Bike Barn for the Garrard and Lenco. It's a French general purpose cycling oil for chains and bearings. Cost about $12 for a little black plastic bottle but was a really nice oil. Similar viscosity to 3 and 1 (not very thick) but an industrial strength oil that won't break down as quicky. I haven't got the bottle any more so can't tell you it's name but it comes in a strange flat asymmetric shaped black bottle made in France.

Cheers James.

[paul300b]

Good work B & O. Pics of yours please!

[beeman]

thanks James - this is for the motor eh - not the platter bearing?

[omegaspeedy]

thanks James - this is for the motor eh - not the platter bearing?

Hi beeman, yes I think the motors in these could get very warm so you want an oil that won't evaporate. This oil could still be good but test it by heating it up to 60-70 degrees and see it keeps its composure and does't evaporate (not that your motor will get that hot, more like 45 degrees max). I've used a 50/50 mix of engine oil and this stuff in my Garrard motor bearings but that might be a bit experimental for some and it's been reported on another forums that any automotive oils aren't good because of the additives, but I think this think that's being a bit precious. Air tool bearing oil in a bit too thin I think but is better heat resistant. I'd either make a few phone calls to a lubricant specialist, or just mix your own engine oil with the or an oil similar.

Cheers James.

[paul300b]

I guess you will have to put a 12" arm on it Beeman? (Does it have a 16" platter?)

[beeman]

I guess you will have to put a 12" arm on it Beeman? (Does it have a 16" platter?)

Yep 16" - hmm wonder what arm to use. Question is whether to go vintage. Will depend on how good they sound

[beeman]

hey guys - well it looks like finally these lovely pieces will be getting the make-over they deserve. Still looking for info. They require new mounting bushes. Anyone know of suppliers or manufacturers to try? cheers

PS. Hal55 did you get your SP10 up & running?